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HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@Handelsblatt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Handelsblatt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@handelsblatt/politik-iajs3qorz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>politik-Handelsblatt</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Zollstreit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Zollstreit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/USpol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USpol</span></a></p><p>👉<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Peking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Peking</span></a> scheint beim US-Zollstreit zur maximalen Eskalation bereit 👈<br>Die Zensur der <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a> lässt derartige Aufrufe zu:</p><p>"... Anwalt <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PangJiulin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PangJiulin</span></a>, der auf <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Weibo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Weibo</span></a> mehr als zehn Millionen Follower hat, dass <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> den...👉Zoll-Streit „bis zum Ende“ durchfechten müsse👈. Der prominente chinesische Kommentator <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HuXijin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HuXijin</span></a> taxierte die 👉Chancen für einen Erfolg des US-Kurses auf null..."im... Lachnummer... "👈</p><p><a href="https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/us-zoelle-sozensiert-china-kritische-online-beitraege-zum-zollstreit/100120302.html?utm_source=flipboard&amp;utm_medium=activitypub" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">handelsblatt.com/politik/inter</span><span class="invisible">national/us-zoelle-sozensiert-china-kritische-online-beitraege-zum-zollstreit/100120302.html?utm_source=flipboard&amp;utm_medium=activitypub</span></a></p>
Stefan Prandl<p>I’ve said since 2016-ish to people that listen to me that, because the tech companies are unwilling or unable to regulate themselves or submit to state authority, the eventual end state future internet is a series of interlocking national networks where national law as network policy can be “enforced”.</p><p>I’ve seen a lot of people saying that the <a href="https://aus.social/tags/TikTok" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TikTok</span></a> ban is as bad as the <a href="https://aus.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a>. That’s kind of the point imo.. it’s the only tool state bureaucracies can understand, and I don’t think they’ll stop here. </p><p>If you want something cool and meaningful to work on, obfuscate VPNs in better ways… we’ll need that before long. Just… share the vlogs on <a href="https://aus.social/tags/PeerTube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PeerTube</span></a>, for obvious reasons.<br><a href="https://social.chinwag.org/@abc_bot/113853302279781196" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">social.chinwag.org/@abc_bot/11</span><span class="invisible">3853302279781196</span></a></p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@GreenFire" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>GreenFire</span></a></span></p><p>I can agree with all of that. However, I think <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Xi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xi</span></a> is at least 2 steps ahead in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> if you use <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Orwell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Orwell</span></a>'s 1984 and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bradbury" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bradbury</span></a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fahrenheit451" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fahrenheit451</span></a> as a yardstick:</p><p>Not only has Xi near total control of China's internet (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a>) 1) in the sense of policing it, but he has even been able to start or change the narrative.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Putler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Putler</span></a> is (was?) still 1 step behind Xi as he was still lacking a similarly effective firewall in the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RussianFederation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RussianFederation</span></a> as of last year.<br> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@ruthbenghiat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ruthbenghiat</span></a></span></p>
Daniel M.<p>Ja, Paywalls können lästig sein, aber die chinesische Internetzensur mit den Paywalls westlicher Medien zu vergleichen und damit zu verharmlosen, das kriegt auch nur der <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TankiePaysan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TankiePaysan</span></a> hin 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Zensur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Zensur</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallofChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallofChina</span></a></p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://historians.social/@philip_cardella" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>philip_cardella</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@suswatibasu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>suswatibasu</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://vmst.io/@AmitR" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>AmitR</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oslo.town/@arnfinnp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>arnfinnp</span></a></span> </p><p>(2/n)</p><p>...<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CCP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CCP</span></a> is now even able to control the narratives on all social and other media within the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a>, not only apply effective <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/centureship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centureship</span></a>. They even have been using <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Orwellian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Orwellian</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ThoughtControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThoughtControl</span></a> techniques, prohibiting the use of certain words, sometimes temporarily.</p><p>2) Apart from ethnic minorities, which are often brutally supressed (e.g. the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Uyghurs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Uyghurs</span></a>), there really aren't the type of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CultureWars" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CultureWars</span></a>...</p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.green/@gimulnautti" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gimulnautti</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://universeodon.com/@nycCatHerder" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nycCatHerder</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://universeodon.com/@LadyDragonfly" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>LadyDragonfly</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FreeSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreeSpeech</span></a> + <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/1A" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>1A</span></a> in the face of pervasive <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> + <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Trumpism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trumpism</span></a></p><p>(5/n)</p><p>...the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PRC</span></a> and the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a>.*</p><p>On the practical side, hundreds of governments would need to pass laws to force human content creators to use some kind of digital signature. This would mean, all <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a> accounts would need to be verified. The dream of all law- enforcement officers...and tyrants.<br>Apart from that,...</p><p>*<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110058004323012344" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1100</span><span class="invisible">58004323012344</span></a></p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.jtworld.net/users/itwasntme223" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>itwasntme223</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@GottaLaff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>GottaLaff</span></a></span> </p><p>(5/6)</p><p>...<br>6) <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Cyberwarfare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberwarfare</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> and abroad: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Xi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xi</span></a> has successfully taken control of the internet in China (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a>) and can now even control the narrative in all media. Furthermore, the strategic investment in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a> gives it clout in the still prominent <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a> platform.<br>(see my older threads).</p><p>And there are other issues, like China profiting from the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EnergyWars" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyWars</span></a>, the successor to its <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RoadAndBelt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RoadAndBelt</span></a> initiative, etc., but this is simply...</p>
Cory Doctorow<p>Tech's surveillance addiction means that Tiktok's own alternative to the RESTRICT Act is also unbelievably stupid. The company has proposed to put itself under Oracle's supervision, letting Oracle host its data and audit its code. You know, *Oracle*, the company that built the <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a> 1.0:</p><p><a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/01/selling-china-surveillance" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">eff.org/deeplinks/2010/01/sell</span><span class="invisible">ing-china-surveillance</span></a></p><p>9/</p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://respublicae.eu/@alexstubb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>alexstubb</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a>: 9 vs. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russia</span></a>: 16.</p><p>Despite not having a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a> (yet), <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Rus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rus</span></a> seems to be edging closer, in particular with its plan to control the internet more close by 2025.</p><p><a href="https://www.economist.com/business/russia-is-trying-to-build-its-own-great-firewall/21807706" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">economist.com/business/russia-</span><span class="invisible">is-trying-to-build-its-own-great-firewall/21807706</span></a></p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://thias.hellqui.st/users/m" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>m</span></a></span></p><p>(1/3)<br>As we have seen in this discussion, content moderation is a two-edged sword, and thinking of the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a>, or <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a> for that matter, this is not a place where any of us want to end up.</p><p>The <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> would have to move strongly into the keyword management for automatic banning.</p><p>I can see, for example, that an instance for, say, child education would legitimately ban porn on its server.</p><p>@LucyWildboots@c.im <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mas.to/@MetalSamurai" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>MetalSamurai</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@atomicpoet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>atomicpoet</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://universeodon.com/@ogtrekker" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ogtrekker</span></a></span></p>
Cory Doctorow<p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/20yrsago" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>20yrsago</span></a> The people’s <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/FirstAmendment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirstAmendment</span></a> rights should not be auctioned off to media barons <a href="https://memex.craphound.com/2003/03/01/the-peoples-first-amendment-rights-should-not-be-auctioned-off-to-media-barons/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">memex.craphound.com/2003/03/01</span><span class="invisible">/the-peoples-first-amendment-rights-should-not-be-auctioned-off-to-media-barons/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/15yrsago" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>15yrsago</span></a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/PublicBroadcaster" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PublicBroadcaster</span></a> + <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/Bittorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bittorrent</span></a> = massive public savings <a href="https://nrkbeta.no/2008/03/02/thoughts-on-bittorrent-distribution-for-a-public-broadcaster/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">nrkbeta.no/2008/03/02/thoughts</span><span class="invisible">-on-bittorrent-distribution-for-a-public-broadcaster/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/15yrsago" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>15yrsago</span></a> How (and why) the <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a> works <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/03/the-connection-has-been-reset/306650/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theatlantic.com/magazine/archi</span><span class="invisible">ve/2008/03/the-connection-has-been-reset/306650/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/15yrsago" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>15yrsago</span></a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/NineInchNails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NineInchNails</span></a> goes <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/CreativeCommons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CreativeCommons</span></a> remix-friendly with new album <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080305012426/http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">web.archive.org/web/2008030501</span><span class="invisible">2426/http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home</span></a></p><p>6/</p>
ProtonVPN<p>The <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallofChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallofChina</span></a> is famous for blocking <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a>, and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Facebook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Facebook</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a>’s massive efforts to censor its citizens shows how powerful internet freedom is. </p><p>Learn more about what the GFW is, how it works, and what it blocks: <a href="https://protonvpn.com/blog/great-firewall-china/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">protonvpn.com/blog/great-firew</span><span class="invisible">all-china/</span></a></p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mas.to/@karenhao" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>karenhao</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@gwbstr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gwbstr</span></a></span> </p><p>They want to have this technology to produce <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FakeNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FakeNews</span></a> in exclusivity behind the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatFirewallOfChina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatFirewallOfChina</span></a>...At least without the warning label.</p><p>In a not too distant future, we will see <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GoogleEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GoogleEarth</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GoogleStreetView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GoogleStreetView</span></a> 3.0 amalgamate technology creating larger than life video clips driving through North Western China, only with happy and dancing people and without any security forces or camps.</p>