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How to turn the new Mac mini on/off.

This is not a joke. I repeat, I’m not joking

@nikitonsky who turns their computer off? Is this a post from the year 2000?

@lain Do you leave your computer powered on 24/7???

@lain @Datenegassie I haven't intentionally turned a computer off unless I was doing hardware maintenance for like 20 years

@feld @lain @Datenegassie
Anyway, a Mac mini consumes about 1 watt of power in sleep mode. Not so much.

Edit: The question is whether we can afford to waste energy? In Germany, an average household consumes around ca. 360 kWh a year just for standby appliances.

But I have to admit that I almost always switch my notebook to sleep mode too. @nikitonsky

@leobm @feld @lain @Datenegassie @nikitonsky Taking that value as an example, it would mean that your home is drawing a bit under 50W continuously for electronics in standby mode. A Mac mini drawing 0.5W (this is the actual specs of the device, turning it off reduces this to 0.1W) in sleep mode isn't going to impact that. Multiplying the other way, the yearly power draw of a Mac Mini always on in sleep mode is approximately 4.4kWh / year.

@dotstdy @leobm @feld @lain @Datenegassie @nikitonsky
I turn multiple PCs and Laptops on and off multiple times a day.

@dotstdy @leobm @feld @lain @Datenegassie @nikitonsky
Because I don't use them in that time. The question is why I should keep something running when I am not using it. The "lost time" for startup is negligible with a modern system.

ManniCalavera

@dotstdy @leobm @feld @lain @Datenegassie @nikitonsky
I am feeling I am coming off too apodictic. When I am working three hours, and have a pause, and am certain I will continue work, I am leaving it on.
I just could not stand the "I never turn it off, Apple is right"-sentiment that was building here.

@ManniCalavera @dotstdy @leobm @lain @Datenegassie @nikitonsky sleep and hibernation modes exist on machines that are not laptops. It's okay. Just leave it on.

It's not even impacting our entire usage as a nation. Our efficiency gains have been outpacing our increased consumption.

@feld The annual electricity consumption of standby appliances in Germany is estimated at over approx. 10 TWh. That's around 4,340,000 tonnes of CO2, if you calculate with 434 g CO2/kWh. Ok, we already generate a large proportion of our electricity from renewable energy sources (But, the average CO2 emissions for grid electricity in Germany are now estimated 326 g CO2/kWh, due to renewables), but that leaves quite a chunk left over. And electricity consumption is still on the rise.

@leobm USA electricity production has been almost flat since early 2000s, so all our datacenters and electronics have done nothing to our overall base load demand until very very recently. Of course demand has moved around the country as factories disappeared and datacenters etc have been built, but as a whole it has been nothing

I'd grab the latest graph off the EIA site but I'm lazy
@feld @leobm Getting rid of CRTs and incandescent, changing out appliances and all seems to have made a miraculously flat chart. It’s really a spectacular feat to do by just consumerism.

@SlicerDicer @feld Couldn't it also have something to do with the fact that less and less energy is needed because the production of goods has shifted more and more to Asia in recent decades? 🤔 A similar deindustrialization can also be observed in Germany.

@SlicerDicer @feld I hadn't expressed myself clearly before, it was more about the consumption that is expected. Due to the increasing electrification in the transport and heating sectors, etc., the demand for electricity is estimated to continue to rise, that's what I actually wanted to say.

@SlicerDicer @feld Lately I've also been reading more and more articles expecting higher power consumption in data centers worldwide due to the AI trend, but I don't know if that's true.

Besides, it may be "good" that there is a flattening of electricity demand in the USA or Europe, but worldwide energy consumption is still rising.
„Global electricity consumption in selected years from 1980 to 2022 in TWh“